well, there's n definite definition for love.. 'cz it meant to be felt... not to be define... haha

i can but it will take a long time to trust those betrayers... we have to frgive to those people who commit sins upon us... 'coz we are sinners to...

for us to call to Him and to believe in Him... eventhough He allow us to suffer, He's still there to guide us and lend His hands for those who have FAITH in HIM
He allow us to suffer for us to become stronger and better....
He wouldn't give us obstacles and problems if He knows that we can't handle it....
He allow us to suffer because of our uncounted sins....

about adam and eve, He created adam and eve as His keeper in the garden of eden.... HE created both of them with heart and soul, with the ability to decide but doesn't have the ability to know what is wrong.... now about the snake, the fruit of knowing the right and wrong..... since adam and eve ate the fruit, eventhough they know that it is forbidden to eat that.... they still ate that fruit because they have the ability to decide....

anyway....
don't question yourself why God give us obstacles and sufferings... it's part of our lives... it's just our "main"payment to our tresspases......

Mangix "Pandaran Brewmaster", Lina "The Slayer" (hmmm, sounds like the name of the character in the anime The slayers) and Kardel Sharpshooter ('am I right?) the "Sniper".. those are my fave.... hero.... but the game is getting boring as I play.. sigh..... hahaha

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Quote by shijirokenalmost all of the teenager today losses their discipline and they tend to do something not good to their health that they don't have to do, like drinking liquors, smoking, and worst, taking illegal drugs and participating some pre-marital sex...

you're right, most teenagers do that...
To keep myself from some bad habits and to avoid these things, I concentrate in my work and to my drawings
i don't smoke & drink liquior!!! I hate cigarettes!!! XO
Choosing the right friend will also help... bad friends... bad influence

how would you know that you have the right friend? *sigh*

Quote by FredGregI'm not really going to answer your question, because I don't really know... I have none myself, I'm just good at saying 'no' to everything & anything. Doesn't matter whether it's good or not. I have to really try to say 'yes.' Basically I'd guess at good parenting & experience. Plus a healthy dose of fear; that's a good one.

Quote by shijirokensomething not good to their health that they don't have to do, like drinking liquors, smoking, and worst, taking illegal drugs and participating some pre-marital sex...
church obligation...

I'm going to take exception here:
Liquor is not bad for your health. It is if you binge drink, & if you make a fool of yourself or do something else stupid, you might not like it, but it is not detrimental to your health or other well-being in & of itself, unless you're allergic or something. It's just that if you have more than you can handle, bad things tend to ensue... interestingly, it's been found by studying many cultures around the world that your reaction to being drunk is largely learnt. You could be pissed off your head, but if you've grown up surrounded by people who act normally while drunk, you'll act normally, though your motor reflexes & thought processes will be slowed if you had enough. This is an actual example - I don't know what culture that was, sorry. Everyone still thinks it's the whole 'disinhibition' thing though... well, it's been observed that that's wrong. This is the next best explanation, & the only current one that fits - subconciously learnt behaviour.
Another, 'illegal drugs' - illegal is not wrong. Illegal is unlawful. Against the law. In that light, it's not a good thing, but it doesn't make it wrong. That said, yes, generally illegal drugs are a bad idea. The only one remotely not that I can think of is pot, & it's still stupid, it's just not as bad as the majority of them. It's just the wording I don't like...
& pre-marital sex? It's not going to kill you. It's not even that bad, depending on how & when & all that. Too much is ignored in simply dividing sex into 'marital,' 'extra-marital,' & 'pre-marital' - it can be bad in all three, & isn't necessarily bad in any, though I'd say extra-marital is plainly stupid & cruel to your spouse, & pre-marital might not be a good idea. This coming from a virgin, so I'm not just defending what I do, because I don't.
Lastly, 'church obligation.' Church is not about obligation, it's about faith. At least in Christianity. If you feel obliged to go to church, you need to re-think why you're there. Being a Christian is about a relationship with God & Jesus (slight redundancy there, I know), not about doing what the priest/vicar/preacher says to do. That all means nothing in the end, all that matters is accepting Jesus. 'Church obligation' is really missing the point, & not only saddens me, it annoys me. If it's an obligation, don't do it! They can't make you, & they shouldn't! That's not why they're there. They're there to support you in your walk with Jesus. (BTW if you're not Christian, this may not apply to your church... dunno.)

first of all, liquors, are not bad at all if it is occasionally... but idf you make it like your water, your abusing yourself, right?
illegal drugs, your right that it is just illegal because of laws, but the question is, why does it is made to be illegal? it is because people tend to abuse and depend on drugs that's why it is illegal, right? laws will not make it illegal if it is not being overused... ex. there is a form of illegal drug that is used for painkiller, right? so, some country used it for legal purposes but with caution... but some country will make it illegal since patient might be dependent on that drugs, also, there are some drugs that has the same purpose but it has the less effect and patients might not tend to be dependent on that...

church obligation, first of all, every christian has a church obligation... ex. going to church for Worship and praying, it is an obligation, so, it depends on the erson if they want to do those obligation, but it is an obligation.... I'll give you one more ex. a student is oblige to go to school but if he doesn't want to go to school(even if he doesn't go to school because of its social status), he may not go to school, right? but the teacher will mark him absent... LOL
every people have an obligation to God, because God is our creator... it is just that some people don't realize that they have obligation....*sigh*

premarital sex, ok, I hate to talk about sex...*sigh*
I know that some norms accepts premarital sex, but the point here is that, it is not ethical for a person to do this stuff if he is not married, right? because some guys tend to cheat on the girl just to get their earthly desire... and the problem here is that, it might end up making a baby, worst, they will abort the baby because they don't want their parents to know this thing or they can't raised the baby because they are still student or they don't have stable income...*sigh*

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I don't smoke! I don't drink liquor (well, occasionally)! I don't gamble!
It's a matter of how you handle yourself with these kinds of things. And one must think before doing so that discipline won't vanish.

yup, it's just all about mind over matter.. hehe

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Quote by shijirokenWhat do you think would be the best way for teenagers to have discipline in their self and have the proper concntration for their studies, Families and church obligation...

Welll...I may be the weird one, but quite honestly those are the LAST things that should be focused on. Its the whole 'obligation' thing..a large part of teenage mentality is 'I dont wanna do what Im told'. Dont make it an obligation. Find a way to make them WANT to do it.
Me, I actually enjoyed studying..not school, it was far too simple; stuff like nuclear physics, astronomy, genetics, advanced chemistry, calculus..that was my speed. As for family...I used to be, but more and more its becoming both a chore and a nuisance. I want to do what *I* want, to live MY life, not cater to someone else. And Im not a religious person, I havent even stepped into a church since age 5, so Im not free to comment exactly. But if the teen in question dosent want to go, they wont or will simply give the absolute minimum to get by. Its human nature; dont wanna do it but forced to, you get crap.

you're right, we must not forced those teenager to do this and that if they don't want to do that, they must like the stuff they want to do.... but apparently, sometimes, they do some bad things which is not a good thing to, eventhough they want to do this.... that's why there is natural law and norms in a society also there is the bible and the rules and regulations in a country, right? so, sometimes, not forcing but advising those teenagers by their parents/Guardians...some teenagers are lucky to have parents that will guide them but they just ignored all those care and do the stuff they want... they don't even consider the advises.. unlike me, nothing...

we are just giving some advises here on how to keep our discipline if we have some, so that if a person will visit this forum, they will have some choices on what things they will do just to forget those vices.. hehe

Quote by alminaI don't have a clue... even if I keep out of all these things.
Just the way I was raised (by my parents and also school) I guess... Maybe explaining the reasons is a good solution but some really want to do forbidden things and don't think about the future (why care about a cancer if smoking is relaxing ?)... even if by example it's hard to say they're clever by following a group.

hehehe, some people are so hard headed and even they know the consequences they will still do those forbidden things just for the sake of their egoistic mind and body...

about raising by parents, eventhough that I was not raised by my parents with proper and enough care, love and attention...like the quote "bread alone cannot feed a child" if a child will just realized by him/herself (just like what I did) while they are young and set their mind on what is good and bad... they can manage to have discipline for theirselves...right?

sometimes, you have to learn on your own, 'coz learning on your own is much better if someone will teach you this and that.....
reading books(like bible) and calling for God's Help and guidance will really help a person..right?

almost all of the teenager today losses their discipline and they tend to do something not good to their health that they don't have to do, like drinking liquors, smoking, and worst, taking illegal drugs and participating some pre-marital sex...

so, since almost all of the member herein MT are teenagers, and younger...

What do you think would be the best way for teenagers to have discipline in their self and have the proper concntration for their studies, Families and church obligation...

*adults and parents are the best adviser here...*

for me, to keep myself from some bad habits and bad situation, I concentrate on my studies and i do my on regulations and I set my focus of mind on not doing the things above and other bad things that may cause others and even my own life into suferings and pain... also, I ask for God's Help and guidance fr me to keep safe and away from bad influences...

i've read this story before and already watched the film, but a summarized story of romeo and juliet, refreshes my mind on one of my favorite novels I've read before and one of the most beautiful story made by a famous author william shakespear.. btw, did you make the summary? this summary is a good one... nice work...

waaaah! sorry I can't help you ith that... I don't have any love life or haven't got any feelings towards love.. sorry kuya....

hmmmm. I think it is all just some profit thing? they just making those youth a little bit of stupid or idiot? *sorry about the words* they just make those youth reliale with this kind of contest just to become rich and popular but the truth is, the one that make this kind of contest just made this thing up for profits... at first, they make those youth popular, but when the people doesn't support them and the profits is low, they will just damped them somewhere out there, furthermore, TV stations and some malls do some *gimmick* just to maintain the profit and the popularity of their talents... for what? for profit/money... gets? and furthermore... most of the youth this days are influence to become stars or actor or actress just to become rich and popular... *why don't they just do something else that they want and they know that they will be happy out of it...* and more, those talents will endup stop studying, they will just go to wrok and work, no more time for school, which is studying is the foundation of your true career.. right? and about the contract? it is just a piece of gimmick!
talents will end up following the contract at the end, eventhough they know that they will be rich... but how about if the contract haven't expired or somehing? then they just dumped you and they don't give you some projects because a new winner on a talent search... so in the end, all the hardwork just to get a contract endup to become useless... that's too frustrating... hehehe

You're a living riddle
Mysterious Guy! The living riddle! You are smart,
A kind of a mysterious loner and you love to talk in riddles,

Quote by Firedemonnope no sadness and sorrow here. im very happy. I've learned that no matter what happens, or how bad it seems today, life does go on, and it will be better tomorrow

I know that everything will be alright at the end... thanks everyone...

to tell you the truth... if you cannot say it.. why don't you give her a card... a card that you make...not the card that you just bought on a bookstore.... make a card that tells her how much you love her and greet her a happy birthday... in that way... your mother will know how much you love her and make her more greatful to you... but I think is that, tell her.... a voice is more tender and very warm if a mother will hear it from her son/daughter..... be brave kuya.. face your fear.... "We will not change anything if we will not face our fears and if we don't risk our lives..." sounds like I'm much older and matured than you kuya...sorry po kuya...

What a life.... some people want a happy family but some selfish parents do always think for themselves and for their own happiness.... they don't even consider their children.. I know that some children understands their parents but, they don't get the love they need the most.... parents always separate in their own path.... and left their children or ignore them....
and sometimes when it comes to the financialneeds of their children, they always fought it because they don't want to waste money for their own children... I'am very sorry If I post this stupid thread(if you think so).... you may delete this or close this if you want...

P.S.
all those children who have such a happy family, I'am very envious of you... hope that you'll cherish everything.... bye!

plasctic age.... yeah........... I just believe on every peoples says to me.... besides, it is not my fault if they lie to me, they are the one to be blame...

eternal life? nobody can escape death, you'll just wait for it... Death is an illness where nobody can escape from it except if you believe on the bible...
science cannot solve everything....
how about if you search for the fountain of youth? where only pigeons knows where it is...

sadness.. I'm full of it, despite of that, I just don't show it to anyone... I face my sadness alone, I just used to go outside when it is raining to get rid of my sadness...

stare the wall, ceiling... reading some books...

I felt that way before, but I ignore them and make my own path... I don't want to live in a shadow of other people.... I know who I'am and I know what I want to be...

Quote by Snow-HimeI choose retrieval because I wan't to retrieve what anyone loss and return it back to them even it will risk my life I will retrieve it back no matter what happen I will retrieve it back (plus at my school I'm one of the member of some group that retrieve stolen things from other people our captain said he got this idea from Get Backers )

how can you retrieve something if your life is alrady persihed in that mission? anyway, we cannot change our future if we don't risk our lives.... -luffy